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上海 Poteva essere Shanghai. La tragedia

2015 November 09 18:02:20

"Vittorio Nesti" <vitness@hotmail.it> wrote: 

Hello mr Zhang.

Sorry I had problems in finding a wi fi, in airport, and my japanese cell phone is not working in China... 
I showed the address to an abusive taxi, he took me here, where I show you in the attached picture. I arrived around 1.50 pm and staied untill 2.30 pm, I was in front of the entrance of the entrance, where did you wait? 
I'm so sorry for the inconvenience... 
Anyway I went to the immigration office where I had a very bad notice, I cannot renew my 1 mounth visa in business visa, as my job contract is an internship, so I'd need to go out and back in China every month... But my company denied, and I think they will move me to Italy... >It was a really unlucky day for me, and I'm sorry to got you in trouble as well. 
Unfortunately, this is the situation, right now. 





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09 Novembre 2015 21:26

"Mr. ZHANG" <zhang_***@163.com> のメッセージ:

Hello, Vittorio Nesti,

Sorry to hear your situation. I was waiting for you at the flat inside from 1:50pm-3:10pm. That taxi driver should take your to the building 2 then you just need to take the elevator in the building to the flat. If you want you may complain to his taxi company about his mistake because he did not take your arrive the building as the address show. At that time, I did not know you were waiting at the entrance of the compound. It was really bad.

About your visa problem, I do not know much about such events. Normally, you perhaps need a Z visa for your working in China although I am not sure. It seems that a Z visa can only apply from a consulate or an embassy of China outside China. The HRs in your Shanghai company should be response for this visa mistake. It is their job.

At this moment, you have to cancel the reservation of this flat, right? If so, the reservation fee will be not return to you from me. It does not mean you lose this part money. This cost should be refunded to you from your company. 

Good luck to you!


Mr. ZHANG

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2015 November 10 05:07:31

"Vittorio Nesti" <vitness@hotmail.it> wrote:


Hello mr Zhang

I  was not lucky yesterday, I am really sorry for having made you wait for me, I was outside the palace all the time and I totally didn't think to go up to the flat number... It's also my fault, maybe I was so upset after the visa problem and I couldn't use my mind clearly...

Anyway I am sorry to made you lose time, I need to cancel my reservation for my apartment, of course I don't want back the money from you, because this situation is due to my company.

Thank you for everything, 

Good luck to you too! Was nice to talk with you.

Vittorio Nesti



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Mar 10 Novembre 2015 11:50

Mr. ZHANG <zhang_***@163.com>

Hello, Vittorio Nesti,

I may understand your sad emotion yesterday. It is not easy to work and live abroad. I had worked in Europe for many years in different countries, almost 6 years in Germany and other years in Finland. When you meet the difficulty or bad situation in your work or life, just cheer up and always encourage yourself while ask for the help from the kind people close to you. It might be just the challenge you will overcome. And your experience will become much stronger. At least you may learn something that you could not get from a university course. 

If you really want to get some working experience in China for your career development, it is also possible to you to apply a Z visa again in either Japan or Italy then come back Shanghai. Certainly, it needs the support from your company.

About the reservation fee, normally it should be not return to you when you cancel the reservation. It is the common rule in the world as you know. If you may find or recommend someone else to take over the flat recently, then it is possible to return it to you after getting rid of the rental cost for the days lost from today.

If you have any more questions, let me know if I may answer. I guess you will have some days at least one week staying at a hotel paid by your company in Shanghai. You may go outside and walk around your company and other sightseeings in this city. Keep far away from the drug and prostitutes, they are illegal in this country. 

Good luck and enjoy your stay here!


Mr. ZHANG

上海 Poteva essere Shanghai. La preparazione (Parte 4)

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2015 Novembre 08 13:36

Mr. ZHANG <zhang_***@163.com> のメッセージ:

Hello, Vittorio Nesti,

Good to hear from you again. Do you have a mobile phone for using in China? If there it is, then you may call me or send a SMS after you finish your visa problem at airport. Then I will have enough time to go to the flat before or just after you arrive there. Otherwise, we may meet at 14:00m. If there is any delay at airport, you may ask a custom officer to call me to inform the situation. My mobile phone number is +86-130-***-***8. By the way, let me know your flight number so I may know if there is any delay of the flight before. 

Have a nice trip!

Mr. ZHANG

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2015 November 08 19:51:46 

"Vittorio Nesti" <vitness@hotmail.it> wrote:

Hello mr Zhang

I have a mobile phone, but japanese number, I will use for emergency callings, probably tomorrow I will be able to call you from there... 
If I cannot, We can meet directly at 14.00 at the apartment address. 

My flight is: Air China CA 164 

Thank you, see you tomorrow! 

Vittorio Nesti


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上海 Poteva essere Shanghai. La preparazione (Parte 3)

Lun 26 Ottobre 2015 22:34

Mr. ZHANG <zhang_***@163.com>

Hello, Vittorio Nesti,

I checked my account at ICBC, your reservation fee 580 euro arrived there today.  There is 0.3 euro more. It could be the interest. So the flat is ready for you now.

Few days before your flight, you may send me an email to make an appointment to meet you at the flat. The flat address in details is App. 1003, Building 2, No. 1278, Huaxia Erlu, Chuansha, Pudong, Shanghai/上海浦东川沙华夏二路1278弄东锦苑小区2号楼1003室. When you arrive at the Pudong airport, you may show the above Chinese words to a taxi driver. Then he will know where he should take you go. The taxi fee is about 50-60RMB/8 euros. Remember to ask the receipt from the taxi driver. You might get the refund from your company later.  

You may also show me your office address, then I can help you check the online map to figure out the route from the flat to your office by the public transport system.

Kind regards,


Mr. ZHANG

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2015 Ottobre 27 17:40

RTO International <info@rto.co.jp> のメッセージ:

Dear Mr Nesti

Good afternoon
I have applied your visa today in the morning.
But Chinese consulate called to me just just 30 minutes ago.
"Your application for staying 90 days x 2 times is not accepted"
If you agree Chinese consulate accepts the visa for staying 30 days 
single entry without any other document or invitation letter.
I asked to Chinese consulate that what kind of invitation letter is 
valid for 90 days stay.
But Chinese consulate says that for students internship 30 days stay in 
single entry is the maximum.

Please inform to me by tommorow morning 09:30

Best regards
T Hattori

RTIO

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Tuesday, October 27, 2015 6:23 PM

From: Vittorio Nesti
To: RTO International
Subject: Re: Chinese Business Visa Application - Vittorio Nesti

Hello mr Hattori

My internship will be not a student internship, as I will quit my school 
on 6 of november, and I'm not attending to any other school or 
university.

We could say it to the consulate, maybe could be ok. This is an 
internship with a future opportunity of long term employment, it has no 
relation with study or student.

Hope will be ok, thank you very much

Vittorio Nesti


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28 Ottobre 2015 13:03

"RTO International" <info@rto.co.jp> のメッセージ:

Dear Mr Nesti

Good afternoon
Today I have explained to Chinese consulate about your finish of your 
study in Japan.
But Chinese consular of visa section said that internship visa is only for 
30 days in single entry.
And I checked that your single entry visa for 30 days stay  will be 
granted on 30 Oct.
Can you come to my office at 11:00 on 30 Nov.?

Best regards
T Hattori

RTO

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Wednesday, October 28, 2015 1:43 PM

From: Vittorio Nesti
To: RTO International
Subject: Re: Chinese Business Visa Application - Vittorio Nesti

Hello mr Hattori

Ok no problem, I will apply for the extension when I am in Shangai.

On 30 of october I finish my school at 12.30, I could come after 12.30 if is 
ok for you.

Thank you

Vittorio Nesti


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上海 Poteva essere Shanghai. La preparazione (Parte 2)

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2015 October 20 17:23:08

Interested in apartment near Chuansha station
"Vittorio Nesti" <vitness@hotmail.it> wrote:

Hello

My name is Vittorio, I'm moving in november to Shanghai for working.

I would like to rent an apartment, I found out your post about "A warm flat near to Line2 Chuansha Station in Pudong"
in the web site "smart Shanghai" http://www.smartshanghai.com/housing/apartments-rent/605676

Best regards,


Vittorio Nesti

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mar 20 October 2015 23:52

Mr. ZHANG <zhang_***@163.com>
Re:Interested in apartment near Chuansha station

Hello Vittorio Nesti, 
Thanks for your email. The flat is still available now. Could you please let me know the following information, where you are from, Italy? how long time you prefer to rent a flat? when you will arrive at Shanghai? will you hold a Z visa? how many people will live there? where is your working place in Shanghai? After receiving above information, we may talk further about renting the flat.

Kind regards,


Mr. ZHANG

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2015 October 21 12:08:26

"Vittorio Nesti" <vitness@hotmail.it> wrote:

Hello mr. Zhang

I am from Potenza in Italy, but I'm living in Osaka now attending a japanese language school.

My job in Shanghai will start around 10 of november, so I will be in Shanghai from 9 of november, in the morning. 

I will hold a M visa (business), I will stay for 6 months there. 

I will live alone in that apartment.

My job place is in Jing An, but I can live without problem even far from it. 

Thank you very much.

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21 Ottobre 2015 17:39

"Mr. ZHANG" <zhang_***@163.com> のメッセージ:

Hello, Vittorio Nesti,

Your name looks like an Italian name, so I guessed you were from Italy.
Have you been to Shanghai before? It is a really big city like Milano in Italy. From the flat to your office, you may take subway line2 from Chuansha station to Jingan temple station, it will take 52min(5 or 6RMB/ticket). From the flat to Chuansha station, it needs about 15 min by walking or 2-3min by a taxi(10RMB for illegal taxi or 14RMB for a taxi) or 3-5min by a bus(1 or 2RMB/one way ticket). One hour on the road is common to people who are living in Berlin, London, Paris or Milano in Europe and here. From smartshanghai website, you may see that the rental of a similar flat in Jingan could be more than 8000RMB. 1 euro is about 7 to 10RMB in past 5 years. 

Many foreigners complain that Shanghai’s winter is extremely cold while staying inside since 99.9% apartment without water radiator heating system. It is common in Europe or northern of China, but really rare here. If you ask local Shanghainese about this system, I am sure even more than 80% -90% of them has never seen it before. This flat has such a system because my families are from north of China. We could not stand the room inside as cold as outside in winter. You may look through the attached file to know more about the flat.

Do you know if a M visa needs change to a residence permit? As I know before, a Z visa needs such process therefore I also have to go to police station with my ID card together with a foreign tenant to get a registration form that is for applying a residence permit.

If you live there alone, perhaps you need a cleaning lady to tidy the flat every week. The local price is 30RMB/ hour or 50RMB/ 2hours. Then you may negotiate the price with her and pay her in cash.
The electric, gas, water fee are not included in rental. They might be different every month. The digital TV fee is 23RMB/month, internet fee is 50RMB/month. They are fixed. The rental is paid every three months in advance. Another one month rental is paid as the deposit. It is the common rule here.
If you have other questions, just feel free to contact to me again.

By the way, another engineer from Malaysia is also interested in this flat, he will be in Shanghai in November too. But he does not make a reservation till now, so the flat is still free.

Kind regards,

Mr. ZHANG




















上海 Poteva essere Shanghai. La preparazione

 Friday, October 16, 2015 8:44 PM

-----Original Message----- From: Vittorio Nesti
To: RTO International
Subject: Chinese Business Visa Application - Vittorio Nesti



こんばんわ

イタリア人のヴィットリオです、

私は留学生です、在留カードを持っています

現在大阪の日本語学校を勉強して大阪に住んでいますが、
最近上海の会社に採用されました。11月から上海で仕事が始まります。


I'l like to ask you if is possible to have your support for the issue of
the Business Visa for China, double entry 90 + 90, my company will send me 
the invitation letter
next week.


Thank you very much.

Vittorio Nesti

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19 Ottobre 2015 10:52

"RTO International" <info@rto.co.jp> のメッセージ:

Dear Mr Nesti

Good morning
Thank you for your e-mail.
Please check about your invitation letter from your company in China.

1.Business(M) visa is issuewd for the workers who are working in oversea 
company(Japan).
For the application of M visa:please attach the certificate of your 
company in Japan+Invitation letter from Chinese company.
The standard forms for the new lules after 2015 iare dounloadable from the 
website my company.
Double entry visa for each stay for 90 days is only for business(M) visa.
For the applicants of double entry visa have to get and arrange the 
invitation letter and the certificate of the company in Japan  indicated 
the dates of entries and departure to and from Chine for 2 stays.

2.Working(Z)visa is issued for the worker in Chinese company.
For the application of Z visa: please arrange 1.Working permit+Invitation 
letter issued by Chinese city government.

Best regards
T Hattori

RTO

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Monday, October 19, 2015 1:15 PM

From: Vittorio Nesti
To: RTO International
Subject: Re: Chinese Business Visa Application - Vittorio Nesti

Dear mr Hattori

Is it possible to come to your office today or tomorrow, for a quick 
consultation?

Thank you and sorry for any inconvenience.

Vittorio Nesti


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19 Ottobre 2015 16:06

"RTO International" <info@rto.co.jp> のメッセージ:

Dear Mr Nesti

Good afternoon
Please check to your company in China about the kind of your visa.
Now short working(Z2) visa is issued by the "invitation letter of duly 
authorized unit" and "Short working permit"
For Z2 visa application" Invitation letter from your company in China" is 
not valid.
Can you come to my office by 17:30 today?
Or tommorow 15:00-16:00

Best regards
T Hattori

RTO

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Monday, October 19, 2015 4:09 PM

From: Vittorio Nesti
To: RTO International
Subject: Re: Chinese Business Visa Application - Vittorio Nesti

Dear Mr Hattori

My company in China will send me an invitation letter for a Business Visa 
(M)

For me is ok to come to your office by 17.30, thank you very much

See you later


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Sunday, October 25, 2015 11:34 PM

From: Vittorio Nesti
To: RTO International
Subject: RE: Chinese Business Visa Application - Vittorio Nesti


Hello Mr Hattori

I received the invitation letter from my company in Shanghai,
Is it possible to come to your office to bring it?
I will be free after 12.30 tomorrow.

Thank you very much


Vittorio Nesti

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26 Ottobre 2015 12:09

"RTO International" <info@rto.co.jp> のメッセージ:

Dear Mr Nesti

Good afternoon
Please come to my office between 16:00-17:30 today.

Best regards
T Hattori

RTO